Comments on: Ajax & PHP without using the XmlHttpRequest Object

by: Stoyan

Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:43:59 +0000

In IE there is a way to tell when the new script is done loading:
http://www.phpied.com/javascript-include-ready/

by: Kris Zyp

Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:09:47 +0000

BTW, I think they also introduced the innerHTML property, which I think was a great contribution as well.

by: Kris Zyp

Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:03:27 +0000

When we say that Microsoft invented AJAX, we mean Microsoft introduced the XMLHttpRequest object, which was really key to the popularization of AJAX. Obviously this article highlights the other techniques for AJAX, but generally AJAX is based around the XMLHttpRequest as it is the most straightforward way of doing AJAX. While it is more fashionable to always criticize MS, we should be thankful for their contribution to this technology.

by: Dimitris Anogiatis

Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:56:52 +0000

?? Microsoft invented Ajax? OK you guys… if you do wanna believe so… go ahead… the way I remember things is a little bit different… and I could be wrong… but I remember Netscape launching Livescript… which actually became Javascript… Microsoft’s Answer was VBScript and JScript… as for XML it’s been brewing by the W3C a long time before Microsoft pushed it out with their MSXML controls… thing is… AJAX is another tool in our arsenal… the point is… not to get grappled by the hype… but use this to create better websites… move the internet forward… not get stuck to who made what… that’s my humble oppinion…

by: Kris Zyp

Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:53:05 +0000

Also, one warning about script tag remote loading. If the remote call fails (because of a connection timeout or server error), there is no way to be notified of the error, whereas the XMLHttpRequest will still call the callback function on failure to notify that it failed.

by: Kris Zyp

Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:37:27 +0000

I have been using this technique for remote calls in my own project for some time now (www.authenteo.com), and another big advantage of using script tags is that if your data returned from the server is JSON form and includes actual JavaScript functions, the script tag automatically does the JSON parsing and your debugger can properly debug the functions (show errors and set breakpoints).
Of course, JSON is also becoming increasingly popular as a format for AJAx, and it also strips the x of the AJAX :).

by: James

Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:02:45 +0000

This is very nice.

Here with this AJAX,I think no more secure in if our Data has more importance

by: Amjith PS

Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:48:06 +0000

Good.., Cool Performance.that is what Ajax compained with the PHP i feel., thanks for the code

by: Irken SSJ4 Goku

Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:41:07 +0000

hello, everybody. that’s a working example of ajax javascript code without XmlHttpRequest… and ready to go! (copy, paste, personalization, plug and play). it’s under development… Version 0.9.1. See at http://ajaxextended.com/

by: R. Mullen

Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:30:57 +0000

Awesome, can’t wait to test it out.

Anyhoo, I think that AJAX *thinking* is much more important than whether or not XML is used. I spent hours on XML back in 1995, thinking it was the greatest thing since sliced bread and haven’t used it other than to play around.

Even though folks in big companies use it, I suspect MOST php programmers don’t code XML any more than they use regular expressions: they leave it to the experts and only want to know what gets exposed to their PHP code.

I use MySQL, and love it, but I also think there’s a use for integrating something totally free like Firebird into an application…in smaller apps, therefore, techniques like this may be more useful than XML. To me, that’s still WAMP or open source *thinking*.

So, I appreciate this article because it focuses on asynchronicity,–i.e. the user experience, rather than being doctrinaire about the geek tools used to achieve it.

Thank goodness the JavaScript Bible is still on the shelf!